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Topic: Pink is Just a Color


Topic Posted by: Kenara
Date Posted: Thu Feb 2 14:50:06 2012
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Posted by: Grandma b@s
Date posted: Tue Feb 7 13:40:58 2012
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Glad they reversed their decision.   Planned Parenthood has gotten such a bad rap.  I don't know why people don't see that, and only see them for the small percentage of abortions (and they try to discourage them...)  I've used PP many times for birth control, for pregnancy tests, for pap smears and even when I had a bad pap and had to have a biopsy and kryotherapy, it was PP that identified it and sent me to the cancer DR for the kryo...which was free but normally would have cost a LOT.  

 

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  • I think you are misinformed. PP does not pass judgement and therefore does not discourage abortions. They are impartial.

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    Posted by: Kenara
    Date posted: Fri Feb 3 19:30:56 2012
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    Thanks to all of you who posted here.  And it is great news that Komen has reversed its policy.  I still stopped by my local Planned Parenthood this afternoon and gave them a check.  (Yes, I am fortunate that I live in an area where I can have a "local" Planned Parenthood office--every neighborhood should be so lucky, and, with enough funding and local support, that could happen.)

    I don't know if Komen will be able to rebuild the trust they have destroyed; with so many of us now aware of the politics behind this move (special thanks to Mitch for the Wikipedia link), it will take new reasons make me want to donate to them rather than directly to other organizations.

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  • I have had some reservations about Komen for quite some time. I think I'll stick to other charities. -Miss H

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    Posted by: Miss Harold
    Date posted: Fri Feb 3 14:16:15 2012
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    I am so happy that they changed their position and apologized!

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    Posted by: SheilaT
    Date posted: Fri Feb 3 12:07:57 2012
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    And here's a link to the statement from SGK:

    http://news.yahoo.com/komen-drops-plan-cut-planned-parenthood-grants-163643930.html


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    Posted by: SheilaT
    Date posted: Fri Feb 3 11:52:32 2012
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    Here's a  link to a story about the defunding from earlier this morning, before the news broke that SGK had reversed its decision.

    http://news.yahoo.com/supporters-rally-around-planned-parenthood-074425355.html


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    Posted by: Mitch
    Date posted: Fri Feb 3 11:40:09 2012
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    Reports of SKG reversing its decision:

    http://news.yahoo.com/ap-newsalert-210303042.html

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  • Wow! Only one sentence. I guess a full statement will follow. /SheilaT

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    Posted by: Mitch
    Date posted: Fri Feb 3 11:24:38 2012
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    In case anyone needs to be brought up to speed on the situation, from Wikipedia:

    Grants to Planned Parenthood The Susan G. Komen organization granted money to Planned Parenthood Federation of America and affiliates. The money paid for 170,000 clinical breast exams and 6,400 mammogram referrals over the past five years at Planned Parenthood.[44][45] Komen had said its affiliates provide funds for screening, education and treatment programs in dozens of communities in which Planned Parenthood is the only place that poor, uninsured or under-insured women can receive these services.[46][47] This partnership garnered criticism from anti-abortion advocates because some Planned Parenthood health centers perform abortions and provide counseling that includes information on abortion.[48]

    Break with Planned Parenthood This section documents a current event. Information may change rapidly as the event progresses.
     This article or section may be slanted towards recent events. Please try to keep recent events in historical perspective. (February 2012)

    On January 31, 2012, the Susan G. Komen organization cut its funding to Planned Parenthood, citing as its reason new rules governing the foundation that bar the support of organizations under congressional investigation, in this case an inquiry by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.)[49] (Planned Parenthood is regularly audited to ensure compliance with the Hyde Amendment: these audits have never turned up any evidence of wrongdoing.)[50] According to Jeffrey Goldberg, multiple persons with inside knowledge of the decision-making process have told him that this rule was adopted only to create an excuse to cut off Planned Parenthood from the Komen Foundation.[51] The move drew sharp criticism from women's health advocacy groups, which said that the Susan G. Komen organization was putting politics ahead of women's health.[52][53] On February 1, 2012, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) both criticized and revoked their support for Komen in speeches in Congress.[54]

    Critics point out that Komen's new rules were created after the hiring of its new senior vice president for public policy Karen Handel, who stated during her unsuccessful 2010 Georgia gubernatorial campaign that "I do not support the mission of Planned Parenthood" and who pledged to eliminate funding for breast and cervical cancer screenings provided by Planned Parenthood.[55][56] Komen founder Nancy Brinker is a longtime GOP donor with strong Republican ties and served as ambassador to Hungary under George W. Bush, and the decision came shortly after Komen unveiled a new partnership with the policy-making arm of George W. Bush’s presidential library.[57] Following the decision, Komen's director of community health programs resigned in protest over the grant cutoff.[58]

    Komen's decision was applauded by conservative religious and anti-abortion groups.[59] Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) said it was "a welcome, long-overdue decision that will make Komen more effective in the fight against breast cancer."[60] Several newspaper editorials denounced Komen's decision, and Planned Parenthood said that it received more than $400,000 from 6,000 donors in the 24 hours after the news broke.[59]

    On February 2, 2012, twenty-six U.S. Senators signed a toughly worded letter urging Komen to reverse its decision,[61] while the American Association of University Women said it would end all collaboration with Komen.[62] On the same day Planned Parenthood said it received a pledge of a $250,000 matching grant from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg[63] and a pledge of a $250,000 gift from a foundation run by the CEO of Bonanza Oil Co. in Dallas to help make up for the loss of funding.[64]

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  • Thank you, Mitch. I was trying to say all of this below but it's better to quote a source like Wikipedia. /SheilaT
  • After reading this, I don't know how anyone could come to any other conclusion than it's a politically motivated situation...Mitch
  • Obviously I agree, Mitch. /SheilaT

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    Posted by: W.E.
    Date posted: Fri Feb 3 0:30:41 2012
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    Let me try and remember...

    Two's a couple but three's a....MOB?

    Let me just go all Facebook and click LIKE!!!

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  • Nice. Nicky
  • Thank you I thought so. They did reverse the decision and apologized. Bet there's no chance of the same from you. Peace. eom/WE
  • If I had something to apolgize for, I would. I'm happy they reversed their decision as well. Guess agreeing to disagree with you is not OK? Nicky
  • Well had you said that to begin with, yes, but you had to slam with that lynch mob. Usually I'm pretty even tempered but not when uncalled for. Yes I disagree with you and shall we leave it at that? No apology for the insult? That's okay, too, as I never expected you saw what you said as wrong or insulting. eom/WE
  • Now that I'm seeing it again, 'lynch mob mentality' was insulting. I do apologize. Nicky Peace WE -- always respected and liked you.....still do...
  • Thank you and right back atcha. Sorry but that word mob (together with lynch) made me see red and I may have over reacted. eom/WE

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    Posted by: Nicky
    Date posted: Thu Feb 2 16:59:56 2012
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    I refuse to jump into this lynch mob mentality after only one side of the story has been heard.  Personally, I believe that both are wonderful causes and I support them both.

    I didn't realize that part of my donation to "Pink" was going to Planned Parenthood.    I get that PP does screenings, but what does that have to do with parenting skills and birth control? 

    If it is politics, shame on them, but Pink is a huge organization and they have to govern themselves.   Why don't we wait and see what PP is under investigation for and what happens AFTER it is resolved.

    Nicky

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  • Oh, sure, it is a lynch mob mentality if you are a conservative Republican. For other people who are moderates, it makes sense that breast cancer screenings are necessary. Holly
  • Planned Parenthood's mission is to provide women's health services. That, of course, includes breast cancer screening, as well as pap smears and routine health checkups, among other services. I don't see what you're questioning. /SheilaT
  • And BTW, PP is 'under investigation' for performing abortions with federal funds, which they DO NOT DO. /SheilaT
  • I'm not a conservative republican. And it is a lynch mob mentality and shame on people for picking on a charity that does so much good. If they don't continue their support of PP after they are cleared of whatever they are being accused of, then raise Holy Hell, but if all SBK is doing is following it's own rules, then what's the problem? Nicky
  • And of course I believe that breast cancer screenings are necessary, as well as check-ups. And I support my local PP though my United Way donations -- a direct check to them -- which United Way offers to me as an option. I just don't understand why SBK is obligated to provide funds to anything besides breast cancer research. I'll keep supporting both because they are both amazing charities. I can't believe that people are so quick to judge a CHARITY! Nicky
  • SBK is free to spend money as it sees fit. And its contributors are free to stop making donations if they disapprove of the way the charity is managed. There's a lot of politics involved in this decision . . .management changes etc. And keep in mind, Congress has been 'investigating' PP's practices for about two years, and I've heard nothing about new findings. The issue has been dead for quite a while . . .have you heard any news about findings that have come to light? /SheilaT
  • If the issue is dead, then why are they still under investigation? Yes, there have been management changes in SBK. I agree with the policy change. It makes perfect sense and unfortunatly PP had to take a hit. Is anybody screaming about the other 8 or 9 charities that were also affected? Nope -- because it's not political. Anyway, after reading today's news, I say, keep up the madness. It seems that it's sparked huge donations for both organizations. Nicky
  • The reason why the investigation is still open is because the GOP anti-choice crowd don't want to admit there's nothing to find. I agree ... PP is getting lots of donations, and it will get me from me than I had previously planned on. /SheilaT
  • MORE from me /SheilaT
  • Go for it! And I stand behind Koman, proudly wearing PINK in support of breast cancer awareness, as well as keeping my yearly donation to PP. Have a nice day. Nicky
  • The decision was reversed and an apology issued. YOU have a nice day, TOO!!!!

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    Posted by: Holly
    Date posted: Thu Feb 2 16:51:01 2012
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    This is a sad situation because Planned Parenthood provides breast cancer screening for low income patients.

    I have donated money to both of these organizations.

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    Posted by: SheilaT
    Date posted: Thu Feb 2 16:46:01 2012
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    Yes! 

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