Lynda, I wouldn't be so sure about that.  I LOVED her on Y&R, I LOVED her Diane.  But everyone always went on and on about how awful she was in the role.   They actually listen to stuff like that sometimes at Y&R (unlike on ATWT where they didn't give a flip about the Janet hate).   So they have canned her.  I hate that, as I loved seeing her.

While WE know what a wonderful actress she is, not everyone else does.   And believe me, the other stations do NOT want ex CBS actresses coming onto their shows.  And I recall the very same prejudice on the CBS boards (especially the ATWT board) when ABC actors were brought over here. 

I'm not really sure why I seem to be the only person I know who liked MW as Diane.  My mother didn't, my sister didn't, and the Y&R board didn't seem to.  Anyway, there is a GLUT of good actresses now with no show to be on (my GOSH at the talent on OLTL).   I wouldn't count on her getting anything on other shows, no matter how great she is (and she is). 

I got to wondering if POSSIBLY the reason they are getting rid of her, is to be able to afford Genie Francis.   Anyone know if that could be true? 

It is always sad to see a known talent getting underutilized & wasted.

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Your basic premise may have value, but the examples of Cass and Jake are ridiculous. Jake's role on the ATWT canvas was huge. They certainly did justice to that character. As for viewers not liking them, I recall a great majority of posters here wishing for Cass to be made a regular part of the show. He was hardly seen as an *interloper* - quite the contrary. Furthermore, neither of those actors were recasts of previously known characters. The situations could hardly be more different. What compels you to write such meaningless nonsense? eom/D

D: What board are you talking about?! On this board, every time Cass made an appearance there was almost nothing positive about the character, or the actor. It was all about ATWT fans posting about 'another AW character ' coming in where they weren't wanted! There were very few saying that Cass could easily have a place on the ATWT canvas. As far as Jake, his history was totally ignored. He was working for Lucinda, when he should have bought (or partnered) Argus from Lisa & been Lucinda's rival, not her lackey. It would also have made more sense for the character to have been a mystery investor/buyer of the tv station. Then introduce the character, rather than just inserting him in randomly & against his extablished history. eom

I'm talking about this board, where many, many people wished Cass would become a regular because ATWT desperately needed some new male blood that wore something other than jeans and plaid shirts. LOTS of people wanted Cass integrated into Oakdale. As for Jake's *history*.... so what? They worked the character in and he spent loads of time on the front burner. The show hardly needed any of your lamebrain story ideas for how it *should* have been or what would have *made sense* in your opinion. He was THERE, and not given short shrift by ATWT as you wrongly claimed above. That only happened in your vivid imagination. When he was written off, it had nothing to do with him not being accepted or ATWT not knowing what to do with him. eom/D

D: Talk about imagination!! There was nothing but negativity for the longest time about BOTH Jake & Cass 'being rammed down our (collective) throat'! Every time that Cass came on there were tons of negative posts here about 'another AW character being foisted on us'. I was the one pointing out that SS wasn't an 'AW actor' he came to AW after doing at least two other soaps. The same holds for Jensen Buchanan (Vicky). Ghost Vicky didn't go over well w/the ATWT fans. Before going after me you might look at the actual history. I am a huge TE fan &, IMO, there were better ways to bring him onboard. YOU may not care about the character's history, but I do. There were inconsistancies in the character & the way they brought him over. TE also would have done really well playing a totally different character! eom

Quote: ATWT did the same thing when P&G brought Cass & Jake to Oakdale. There was a lot of promise to those characters, but the decision makers didn't know what to do w/them on the ATWT canvas. Now, perhaps you can explain just how you figure either TE or SS were treated *the same* as MW. 1. They came to ATWT as the characters they'd played on AW - not as re-casts of old ATWT characters 2. Jake was given a ton of good, meaty, well thought out front burner story. They knew exactly *what to do with him* even though it didn't match what YOU wanted them to do with him. We were watching ATWT, not AW. Nobody but a few die-hard AW fans cared whether the character was completely true to his old AW history. And 3. Jake was at the fore-front of ATWT for a good long time - around three years, I believe. There's absolutely NO similarity to MW's brief stint on Y&R. ATWT did NOT do *the same thing* AT ALL. Not even close. As for TE's and SS's respective acceptance by ATWT fans, TE was somewhat resented at first but he was eventually accepted and liked. SS rarely appeared, and there most certainly were many people who would have liked him to become a regular. We certainly remember that situation differently. As for *Ghost Vicky*.... come on. Why would you even dream of her being accepted? She was a stupid GHOST that no one knew or cared about. What did you think would happen? That everyone would clamour for her to become a regular feature on the show? They knew from the get-go Vicky was going to be killed off. It was never in the cards for her to become an Oakdale resident. So what exactly was the *promise* that character had coming to ATWT? I repeat: None of those AW actors moving to ATWT bore the slightest resemblence to MW's situation at Y&R. eom/D

I'm with you on this, D. Jake was extremely well-loved. He even managed to make MOLLY well-loved. I'll never forget the anticipation for their wedding. And I also remember the women on this board clamoring for more Cass. He was HOT! Loved Him! /Jill

Thanks, Jill. As for TE also would have done really well playing a totally different character! ..... again, SO WHAT? He did really well playing Jake. The show integrated him just fine as Jake. If it wasn't for an ugly off-screen problem with TE personally, Jake might have been around for many more years. ATWT had to get rid of him. eom/D

I've never said that Jake was eventually well liked & accepted. But it took quite some time for that to happen. Those glowing posts were few & far between when the character first came over to ATWT. YOU say 'so what' about TE being able to play a different character, but IMO, a lot of that initial negativity wouldn't have existed if he had come to ATWT playing a character that wasn't the same one he played on a recently ended soap. As far as TE having a problem IRL, I don't recall ever hearing anything about that or that he 'HAD to go'. At that time we had a very good, daily source of soap opera information & I don't recall anything like that being mentioned. eom

Gee, Rosebud, maybe there are things you don't read about in your soap mags and books. Maybe you actually have to have a real *inside* source. eom/D

D, what happened with TE off-screen? /Jill

I loved Cass and said so many times on this board. ATWT could have used a sophisticated man in his age group, and not hiring him was a mistake on the part of TPTB, Suits or Corp. Jake was okay; Vicky was a joke albeit a short term resolution for some AW fans. And I remember reports in the press that Tom Eplin's firing was, to some degree, the result of his spotty relationship with some other cast member. In other words, I agree with D's account. eom/silver

Jill, I was told, by someone who is in a position to know, that it was a matter of sexual harrassment of a young person, who should probably not be named in this public forum. Silver, I'm glad you remember things the way I do - there was a demand for Cass, and there was never, ever any *promise* regarding Vicki. Meantime, Jake was given a great opportunity by ATWT. eom/D

That's unfortunate. I'm sorry for the girl, whoever it was. Thanks for the explanation. /Jill

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Posted by: dolphina
Date posted: Sun May 29 16:07:23 2011
Message:
Has anyone ever seen Maura play anything but Carly before this? HAS she ever played anything but Carly before this? Maybe that's all she can do.

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I almost didn't comment on this because I try to ignore especially mean posts but, I guess my better judgment has gone out the window. Anyway, I highly doubt an actress who has won two Emmy's can only play one role.. that is so ridiculous it is not even funny. Its a real shame people have to be so darn mean on forums but, it seems to be an epidemic. The woman lost her job... have some heart. Anyway, there is lots of talk about why Maura was let go and it had nothing to do with Maura herself or anything she did or didn't do. It was about backstage politics and certain people not wanting her there. eom

I wasn't trying to be *mean* and I do feel badly for Maura losing her job, but I believe Carly Tenney is the only acting job she ever had before moving to Y&R. Am I mistaken? Has she in fact done a bang-up job in a variety of acting roles? I happen to think she was great as Carly with the material ATWT gave her, but please, let's not be foolish about the value of Daytime Emmys and remember the fact that any Emmy recognition Maura received was for the portrayal of a single character. Do you typically judge actors based on just one role, or is it only Maura? eom/D

D I didn't think your post was mean at all? Maybe it's a place we'd all prefer not to go but it could just be a sad truth, and I'm sure Maura herself has thought it and is terrified about it. /eom

I have always wondered why Maura didn't try to branch out. I guess it's just not where her priorities are/were. I do hope she gets another acting gig because she does have lots of talent. And Dolphina, please don't take MM's criticism personally. (I'm sure you won't). She's a bit paranoid where her idols are concerned./mm

I'm well aware of *the Carly syndrome,* mm. I'd certainly like to see Maura's career continue and expand, but so far there's no hard evidence she can successfully play any role but Carly. I think she'll have trouble getting considered for other parts outside the soap industry, with nothing else on her resume at her age, and soon there won't be a soap industry.

I think when some actors play a character on a soap that fans really identify them with it's hard to see them as anyone else. i think as much as a soap can make you famous and loved it can also make some characters always associated with the Actor.Not a good thing when you're trying to be someone else.I wish all the ATWT actors great careers but we and they know parts might be few and far between!...mmc....

I read an interview MW gave where she expressed an interest in attending nursing school. Maybe she should pursue that interest if nothing else pans out in the acting field. But I hope she gets another acting gig soon where the writing makes more sense. I'm curious about the backstage drama MM referred to, about certain people not wanting her there. Spill, please. LyndaL

It seems to me that some viewers cannot distinguish between the actor and the character. I saw that in how people villified Julie Pinson because she portrayed an obnoxious character. Same with Maura. She is idolized because she played the heroine of ATWT for many years./mm

With some especially smitten Carly fans, ANY character who rivaled or caused problems for Carly was vilified.... even if they were horribly victimized by Carly. This even extended to the child JJ, who was seen as an interloper in Carly's life. Julie Pinson wasn't the only actor attacked for playing a rival of Carly's. Remember Annie Parisse and Sarah Brown? Or Yvonne Perry and Cady McClain in the days when Rosanna was seen to be interfering with Carly's agenda? eom/D

Speaking as one of Janet Ciccone's most vocal critics, I must say my dislike of the character had nothing to do with her being a rival of Carly, a character I also disliked. I found Janet to be more than obnoxious...she was loud, crude, and outrageously hypocritical. Beyond that, I felt that Pinson was given far too much screen time in multiple, overlapping storylines. In fact, when Janet first appeared on the scene, I actually found her refreshing. That did not last, however, due to TIIC's desire to damn near build the show around her. As for other rivals of Carly, I was on THEIR side. I loved Annie Parisse as Julia, and raved about her. I vilified Jack and Carly for the way they treated her. Yvonne Perry was my favorite Rosanna, but I warmed up to the Rosanna in her final appearance in the role. JJ simply got on my nerves. I couldn't stand his screeching. But, the scene that touched me most was when Carly grabbed that frightened boy's hand before he faced his abusive father in court. Now, Julia Larrabee was another story. In fact, she represents a turning point regarding my feelings toward Carly. It was the first time I ever sympathized with Carly. I hated Julia with a passion for allowing Jack's family to think he was dead...much as I detested Carly for allowing her family to think she was dying. I found Sarah Brown to be overrated, and after watching her on Cold Case and other projects, I still believe that to be true. Just my two cents... (eom) Mandi

Sounds like you didn't like ANY chatacters on ATWT./mm

Both Carly and Julia Larabee's big lies were unforgivable. However, the difference between them was that Julia deceived a family she didn't know or have any reason to care about (beyond basic human compassion) whereas Carly deceived HER OWN family. Ugh, it makes me shudder just thinking about it. eom/D

To the contrary. I actually liked many characters on ATWT. I adored Ben Harris, Jessica Griffin, Lucinda Walsh (except in the final year), and I absolutely loved the bad boy T. Marshall Travers. One of my favorite characters was John Dixon. I enjoyed Kim and Bob, and could tolerate Margo and Tom. Near the end, there was only one character I cared a blip about, and that was Dr. Reid Oliver. By the time the show was cancelled, everyone I really cared about had been written out or destroyed. It's no wonder I don't miss ATWT. (eom) Mandi

Mandi, you may have liked and sympathized with Julia/AP, but there was a large contingent here hammering away at how boring/dishonest/wimpy Julia was and how AP couldn't act and had *man hands.* As for Rosanna, the story was that she should rot in hell for not turning over her entire fortune to poor, downtrodden, *dirt poor* Carly, who was doing her best to defraud her while meantime breaking up her and Mike. Yvonne Perry couldn't act either, according to the Carly apologists, and Cady was ugly and did nothing but flutter her eyelashes. Anyone who crossed Carly in any way was the devil. As for the kid JJ, I recall him being rambunctious and spilling hot chocolate on Parker at Al's Diner one time, and the story was that he *threw* hot chocolate at Parker. Some people were so smitten with Carly that all reason and logic was abandoned. eom/D

D, I hated the way Jack and Carly treated Julia Lindsay, especially the scene in which she wound up in a punch bowl. In fact, most of the time Carly was on the show, I could not stand the character, even though I admired MW's acting abilities. Carly was vile most of the time. I loved Yvonne Perry's Rosanna, and was disgusted by the way Carly came to town pretending to be her cousin. You may recall that I was a big fan of Shawn Christian's Mike, also. I could not deny his chemistry with Carly even though I wanted him with Rosanna. It took me until the end of the show to actually like Cady's portrayal of Rosanna. I, too, thought she blinked to much and found it annoying. She seemed too delicate for the role. I couldn't envison her Rosanna as a farm girl. Until the last few years of the show, I enjoyed Carly as a character I could love to hate. In the final years, she did little more than grovel. IMO. And, Carly/MW had her share of detractors. Folks would talk about the way she splayed her fingers and waved her hands around, the way she pursed her lips or wore her hair extensions, or the fact that MW kept leaving as her family grew. (eom) Mandi

*I couldn't envison her Rosanna as a farm girl.* You know, I never thought of it that way, but you're right. Originally Rosanna was never happier than when she was doing chores on the farm, and then when she took an apartment for Carly and herself to live together it was a simple place. Cady's Rosanna did lack that hardy-farm-girl- with-simple-tastes quality, which may be the reason they so seldom reminded us about her prior close relationship with Emma -- it simply wasn't very believable. I adored her version of Rosanna, though. eom/D

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Posted by: GLATWTfan
Date posted: Sun May 29 10:22:59 2011
Message:
She had bad writing and that was also not the part for her. She was playing a woman that should have been 10 years older than she was. IT would have been better if she had been brought on as a new character.

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Posted by: CannaLily
Date posted: Thu May 26 21:05:14 2011
Message:

I called it months ago and I hate it!  I think it WAS the writing, not Maura.  Heck, they never gave her a story!  lol.  She had absolutely nothing to sink her teeth into.

And why bring her on as a character that the audience didn't even like to begin with?

I hope she does Primetime or some movies, not another soap.

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Posted by: Lila
Date posted: Thu May 26 9:46:23 2011
Message:

This is sad news for the De Frietas family, especially so after their major uprooting to the West Coast and all that involves. IMO Maura didn't do a bang-up job in the role -- and it WASN'T do to the writing or lack of a solid storyline - she lost her edge, and IMO will never get it back, thanks to the needless plastic surgery that froze her face in time. A face that doesn't show emotion will not work in that industry.

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They were moving to California anyway before she got the role on Y&R. And really? People with plastic surgery do not work in Hollywood? alol /eom

I'm glad you find the situation humorous to the point of LOL'ing. I find it to be a tragedy. To be sure, there is enough plastic in Hollywood to shrink wrap the globe ... but when the procedure doesn't come off well .... to me, it's tragic. Especially so when an actor (whose entire profession is based upon emoting) no longer can emote or express thru facial expressions the temperament of a scene. And this is the case here. (Lila)

Ok.. I will bite, just what plastic surgery are you referring to? I am not saying Maura never had anything done but, I am curious what you think she has had done and if you can back that up with any proof. Please tell me exactly what Maura has had done that has made her face unable to be an actress anymore? If you are talking about Botox well, I bet 99% of the actresses in Hollywood have Botox.. so, your point doesn't even make sense. Honestly, this post is sort of hilarious and its also sort of vicious.

Midwest Meredith, you are not such an avid fan of Maura's as you purport yourself to be ----- for if you were, you would have spotted these changes in Maura several years ago just as I had. You ask for proof == PROOF??? It seems nostalgia has gotten in the way of you seeing clearly if you have to ask for proof. Compare videos of her from years back to the ones taken after she came back from maternity leave with her second to last child. There is all the proof you need. You can see for yourself that her acting style diminished greatly .... that her facial expressions DO NOT MATCH up to what the scene(s) calls for and to compensate for the LACK of expression, she picked up different traits to add to her repertoire, i.e., tilting her head sideways and leaving her mouth open were the two most annoying ones. Botox? I've no idea, for I thought Botox was of short duration -- and one had to have follow-up injections. Clearly she had work done on her nose, eyes, mouth, forehead and probably more areas than that. Vicious? I come across as being vicious? Only truthful, Midwest Meredith, without wearing rose colored glasses. And, once more I have to repeat myself to you by saying I was once Maura's most devoted and protective fan. For YEARS. And to see how she ruined her own career sickens and disgusts me to no end. If you may recall, recently I commented about a scene from Y&R where the child actor playing Dianne's son Kyle had a greater handle on the scene than Maura did. The situation called for a perplexed/shocked look which the young actor handled beautifully. Maura? Her face had a frozen smile .... totally wrong for the scene. My heart sunk. So don't you tell me my point is senseless or that what I've posted is vicious, I care more about Maura and her well-being than you ever did, and I'm deeply saddened for such a lousy turn of events. You talk about 2 Emmy's in her background - how about me saying to you that Maura should have walked away year after year carrying an Emmy -- for she was that splendid. Past tense - WAS splendid. I felt this second Emmy wasn't deserved, for splendor in her performances no longer existed. (Lila)

It is sad that the life of an actress is skill but so much depends on looks.i don't think Maura looks as bad as some.Hunter Tylo destroyed her beautiful face.She's on B&B and was one of the great soap beauties.She did her lips for starters and now the beauty is gone.So sad for actresses especially.Men age gracefully but women if not perfect arre considered old and unsexy.Sad but that's the fate of an actress, especially in La!...mmc...

mmc, I'd catch the last few minutes of B&B, waiting for ATWT to begin, and I thought Hunter Tylo was the most beautiful woman on TV and the silver screen. So demure, with beauty and poise, she reminded me of the late Loretta Young who possessed the same rare beauty. Now I can't look at her face, I find it too grotesque. Same holds true for Meg Ryan, cute as a bug in a rug .... I can barely look at her face now, as well as Melanie Griffith. Maura had her work done after Leslie Kay lopped off her nose and wiped away her frown lines ... in the process Leslie Kay's million dollar smile was gone. Her nose is so horrid to look at, it took months for me not to think of Michael Jackson when looking at 'Molly' on ATWT. I find it so sad that these once-beautiful women, were so uncomfortable living in their own skin .... that they chose the alternative. (Lila)

Lila: HT was NEVER 'demure'! She was a beautiful, talented woman, but demure never applied to her. It is a shame that her insecurities got the better of her. She has been in some rather negative relationships, publicly, as well as being daytime's poster child for 'cosmetic surgery gone wrong'. eom

Rosie, perhaps I did use the word demure incorrectly applying it to her .... but because she was always so graceful, in my mind demure follows gracefulness, as being part of 'reserved' - I know, for I too read things about her attitude/nature etc., but tended to disbelieve this about her. (Lila)

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