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Topic: Has anybody read


Topic Posted by: maggimae
Date Posted: Mon Aug 16 13:21:08 2010
Additional Comments: It's the first book I got from Audible.com and I am really enjoying it. I think it would not be as good to read it as the four narrators do such a good job with the dialect. It takes place in Jackson, Mississippi in the 1960s and tells the stories of the negro help and the white women they work for. I was raised in the north but went south often to visit my grandparents and believe me, this book does not exaggerate what happened back then.



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Posted by: Miss Marple
Date posted: Sat Sep 4 21:31:05 2010
Message:
I'm enjoying this thread, although I have not read many/most of the books you are talking about.  While I read a lot, I read mostly mysteries, and a few historicals. My current favorite mysteries are the " The Girl..." trilogy by S. Larssen. "The Defector" by Silva is my next read, followed by Paretsky's latest.  I like the Nevada Barr books that another poster mentioned. Lee Child and John Sandford are always good IMO.  As for historical novels, Phillipa Gregory is a favorite.  I'm on the wait list for "The Red Queen". Also like all of the Rutherfurd books (Sarum is probably the best)  and LaFollette's "Pillars of Fire" and "World Without End" will probably be classics.  Will probably be reading more and watching TV less in the future, although there are a FEW really good shows on now, noteably "Glee". Love History Chanel and History International (I don't have premium cable.)

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  • I've read a couple of the Phillipa Gregory books. Several years ago, I was working on a novel in the time of Mary Queen of Scots. MM, have you ever read anything by James Lee Burke? He's probably my favorite contemporary author. He writes mainly a series set in Louisiana with a Detective named Dave Robicheaux as the main character. I mostly listen to audio books as the narrator is an actor by the name of Will Patton who is great with the Cajun accent or any accent for that matter. I'm currently listening to ''The Glass Rainbow'' which is his latest./mm
  • Yes, I have read several of the James Lee Burke books and have listened to one. He is extremely popular even with non-mystery readers, and is a favorite with my Sisters-in-Crime reading group, but for some reason I don't especially enjoy. I liked his early ones better. and I think that due to his mastery of description he listens better than he reads. This is only my opinion, and I don't expect others to agree with me. (Obviously I have read all the Agatha Christie's many times.Rex Stout too, may they RIP.) /MissM

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    Posted by: Skullys Girl
    Date posted: Wed Aug 25 21:23:16 2010
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    I haven't read The Help, but all this praise definitely has me interested...particularly with the movie coming out. In the cases of book to film translations, I always like to read the books before seeing the movie. Sounds like I better check this one out!

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    Posted by: maggimae
    Date posted: Tue Aug 24 13:49:43 2010
    Message:
    I am so excited about all the recommendations I'm getting for books and authors. And I'm even finding some audio versions of them on my library web site so I can listen to them on my MP3 player. I'm currently reading (listening to) Kill the Messenger by Tami Hoag recommended by Barb and just downloaded Shanghai Girls by Lisa See recommended by Maureen. Will look up Diamond Girl's books when I get a chance.

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  • Hi Maggie - Was actually Mandi who recommended Shanghai Girls by Lisa See. I am reading it right now and can barely put it down it is so good. Before Mandi told me about it, I had read Snow Flower and the Secret Fan - and it was excellent too. Lisa See is some kind of writer. I can see where I might go to Audio Books on my Kindle one of these days; my eyes keep getting worse. But for now, am just loving the Kindle............................................maureen1900
  • Just wanted to add - I loved all of the books in the list I posted here. But the two I liked the best were by Jeannette Walls; I still keep thinking about those two books and it has been months since I finished them...........................................maureen1900
  • Maureen, from what I've read, Kindle audio books are read by mechanical voices and that is quite different from regular audio books which are read by really talented people, many of them actors. Two really good ones are Blair Brown and Mark Hammer. He does all of James Lee Burke's books and I will listen to any book he reads because he is so talented. The guy who is reading the Tammi Hoag book I'm listening to is very talented as well./mm
  • Hi Maggie, just got off of the Kindle forum at Amazon. One person there said they download audio books all of the time to their Kindle, and that it reads audio books in the author's voice or the performer's voice. They said if you have a regular book downloaded to the Kindle that shows printed words on the screen, that is what the Kindle reads in the computer voice. So I am thinking about subscribing to Audible too. The computer voice is okay, but nothing like a real person doing the reading. And I want to check out the author you are talking about, Tammy Hoag. She sounds great...................................................maureen1900
  • I finished the Tami Hoag book. She is a good writer, but I'm not a big fan of crime (detective) novels, with the exception of James Lee Burke's books. I'm listening to
  • (dang quotes) Shanhai Girls now. It is great./mm
  • I just finished Shanghai Girls this morning; I loved it. I think it is even better than Snow Flower and The Secret Fan. Now I am starting on Peony in Love, also by Lisa See. Have only read a few pages, and I love it already too....................................................................maureen1900
  • Maureen, I'm so happy you liked Shanghai Girls. (eom) Mandi
  • I've been listening to it all day and really enjoying it. I have another of her books on reserve./mm
  • I loved Shanghai Girls. Just finished Peony In Love; I just got too depressed reading this one, but it was a very well written book. At present I am reading Gold Mountain, also by Lisa See. So far, am really liking it too..........................................maureen1900
  • I finished Shanghai Girls yesterday and thought it was very good. I think she left enough of the SL hanging that she could do a sequel if she wants. Thanks again for recommending this writer. I'll probably read (or listen to) all her books./mm

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    Posted by: diamond girl
    Date posted: Tue Aug 24 8:38:21 2010
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    Just checking the board. this does not answer the ? but thought i would mention some very good novels i have read this month. FATHER OF THE RAIN by Lily King. Outside the ordinary world, by DORI OSTERMILLER and THE SUMMER WE FELL APART by Robin Antalek. I also read THE HELP back in JULY. That novel was great. I could not oput it down.

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  • Now I HAVE to read

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    Posted by: maureen1900
    Date posted: Sat Aug 21 21:03:40 2010
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    I read The Help and loved the book.  Here are some other books I recently read that I liked a lot:

    The Glass Castle:  A Memoir -- by Jeannette Walls
    Half-Broke Horses: A True-Life Novel -- by Jeannette Walls (a sequel to first book above)

    Down River - by John Hart

    The Last Child - by John Hart

    The House at Riverton - Kate Morton

    The Kitchen House: A Novel - by Kathleen Grissom

    Snow Flower And The Secret Fan - by Lisa See

    The Triumph Of The Sun - by Wilbur Smith

     

    I love this thread, all of us talking about the books we have read and like.  Gives us all good ideas.

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  • If you enjoyed Snow Flower and the Secret Fan, you must read Shanghai Girls, also written by Lisa See. I couldn't put it down. I've heard about The Help from women in my book club, and we've chosen it as a subject. I picked it up yesterday, and I have only read a chapter so far. To be honest, I'm not enjoying the dialect, as it does not seen authentic. As an AA woman whose grandmother, great-grandmother, and other family members and friends, have been ''the help'' in the South, I am particularly interested in the subject matter. I have a BA in English, and toward that end, I read a lot of Zora Neale Hurston, Maya Angelou, and Toni Morrison, among others. Their dialect rang true to me, based on the speech I've actually heard in my older family members. Maybe I'll be able to overlook the issue of dialect as I progress through the book... (eom) Mandi
  • Also, I must recommend J. California Cooper's Life is Short but Wide. Cooper always delivers beautiful work. For a real page turner, check out The Wrong Mother, by Sophie Hannah... (eom) Mandi
  • Thank you so much, Mandi. I have a B.S. in Education/English, so we have a lot in common. Reading has been my main pleasure since age four - I live for it. About a year ago I bought a Kindle e-reader, and I love it so much. Never thought I could stand not having a 'real' book in my hands. But I love my Kindle; it has changed my life. I have read a ton of Civil War books lately, but need a break once in a while, so I am off to Amazon to look up these books...............................................................maureen1900
  • Forgot to add - I found the dialect in The Help to be not very good either. I finally decided to try to overlook it, which I did, and just enjoyed the book...........................................maureen1900
  • I listened to The Help and the narrators did very well with the dialect. I've written stories in dialect and it is tough. Many writers won't attempt it./mm
  • Maureen, thanks for the list of books. I'm particularly interested in checking out Lisa See. Barb, I just downloaded a book by Tammi Hoag. I'm very particlular about crime novels. Love some but hate others. We'll see./mm
  • I loved The Glass Castle...It's truly amazing what people can live through and still keep going.!!

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    Posted by: Barb
    Date posted: Sat Aug 21 20:49:53 2010
    Message:
    Who wrote "The Help" mm? I checked my library's catalog online and found books under the "Help" category only.

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  • The Help is by Kathryn Stockett.............................................................................maureen1900

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    Posted by: Janie
    Date posted: Wed Aug 18 18:36:52 2010
    Message:

    I, also, have heard really good things about The Help.  I think I will read it now that I have your recommedation.

    I recently became acquainted with a mystery writer by the name of Nancy Pickard.  Her latest book is The Scent of Rain and Lightning.  I stayed up until the wee hours of the morning finishing it.

    I liked it so much that I purchased some of her other ones now in paperback.  So far, they haven't been quite as good of Rain but they are The Virgin of White Plains and But, I wouldn't want to die there. (New York).

    I haven't been into mysteries in the past but this writer has got me into them.

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  • Janie, have you read any books by Nevada Barr? The main character is Ann Pigeon and they all take place in a National Park. Barr has been a park ranger. They are all very good. I read all the books she'd written several years back. I need to check if she's written anything lately./mm
  • I should add that Barr's books are mysteries./mm
  • No, I haven't read any of hers but it sounds interesting. Next time I'm at the Library or book store, I check her out. Thanks. J.

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    Posted by: silver
    Date posted: Mon Aug 16 20:30:32 2010
    Message:
    Would this be 'The Help?'  lively discussion over dinner the other night with friends - everyone who has read the book says it is great.  Must get a copy.  I have ordered the newest Kindle version, so I may wait until it arrives - in my lifetime, I hope - and download. 

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  • Bingo Barb, on both counts. The book is The Help and it was those dang quotation marks that screwed me up./mm
  • mm, is it really a good book or does it just slam the South ?
  • BB, I have a feeling you would not like it, but I sure would like your take on it. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 72 and the things I saw in the South when I was growing up were very similar to what was in the book. I remember blacks used to get off the street when whites were approaching from the opposite direction. The N word was used in front of blacks. I remember sitting at the dinner table and a friend of my grandparents kept usng the N word while my grandmother's maid were serving us. Thinking he did not realize she was there, my sister poked him and motioned towards the maid. This guy said, ''Hell, she knows she's a N----.
  • mm, I'll read the book and let you know.
  • That should be sidewalk, not street./mm
  • BB, from the stories I hear from my 73 year old mother, as well as what my father shared with us before he died, really ring true in The Help. Both my parents were college educated, with Masters degrees in Education, and to make extra money they worked in restaurants and clothing stores they couldn't even patronize. Things have come a long way, but I still get the feeling there are some folks out there who wish things would go back in a much more segregated direction. BTW, my father and his friend authored a musical on this very subject that played Off Broadway in the 80s, so it is indeed near and dear to my heart. (eom) Mandi
  • ...Oh, and I think it's worth noting that I'm a 43 year old woman whose Virginia birth certificate has labeled as ''colored.'' (eom) Mandi
  • Mandi, how I wish I could type well enough to tell you of the things and impressions I have from that era. It was a time like no other. Maybe one day we can sit down and talk. I think you'd be interested in what I would say.
  • Well, I think that is one good thing that has come out of this message board. I've had my eyes opened by some of the things the AA posters have written. Can't remember who it was, but someone wrote about how afraid they were that their nephew would be killed and it just sent chills through me to think some perfectly innocent young man could be the victim of violence. And I know it happens./mm
  • BB, I wish we could sit down and chat a spell. It's wonderful for folks to share experiences, as we could learn so much from one another ;) (eom) Mandi
  • Who knows, Mandi ? Never say never !

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    Posted by: Barb
    Date posted: Mon Aug 16 19:36:58 2010
    Message:
    Didn't get the name of the book mm-maybe you used parentheses in the subject line? Reading Tami Hoag's books now-they are knocking my socks off! lol

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  • Never read any of hers but I've heard she is also a great writer. J.
  • I'm listening to a book by Tami Hoag now and I agree that she is a very good writer. I'm thinking this is one book that it's better to read than listen to. I'm having a bit of trouble concentrating./mm
  • Just finished Kill the Messenger
  • You are right, Barb. Detective mysteries, or any mystery for that matter are difficult to listen to because you can't go back and reread passages that may have clues. Well, you can, but it's difficult. Also, keeping all the characters straight is difficult./mm

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