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Topic Posted by: ML
Date Posted: Mon Mar 19 14:56:01 2012
Additional Comments: Malia Obama, President Barack Obama's Eldest Daughter, Travels To Mexico For Spring Break

President Obama's 13-year-old daughter Malia Ann joined thousands of American students as they crossed the border to Mexico for spring break this weekend.

Despite warnings from the Texas Department of Public Safety that students avoid Mexico for spring break, many ignored cautions and ventured to cities and resort towns throughout Mexico.

However, most students do not have a team of bodyguards to ensure their safety.

Malia landed in Oaxaca on Saturday with 12 of her friends and 25 secret service agents in tow. The teen flew from Houston on United Airlines, as originally reported by Mexican newspaper Milenio. The group was escorted to their hotel in three bulletproof SUVs, with some streets partially blocked off while the teens were en route.

Malia and her friends are staying in a downtown hotel near the heart of the city's historic center.
The young tourists have already visited the architectural zone of Mitla and the tree of El Tule since their arrival. They will also visit Monte Alban, home to archeological research sites, and the artisan quarters in Oaxaca.

Aside from secret service agents dressed in black suits with radio sets, Mexican police have also been on scene to guard Malia and her friends.

"We are here to block access to the hotel by other people and escort the vehicles that are carrying the visitors to tourism sites," a police official told AFP under the condition of anonymity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/malia-obama-mexico-spring-break_n_1364063.html


This link may not last too long...it took me awhile to find a link for this story that actually worked...





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Posted by: Dawn
Date posted: Fri Mar 23 10:17:24 2012
Message:
I have been avoiding MD and lots of other places because I didnt want The Walking Dead finale spoiled. Watched it last night so...


I am conflicted about this one. It is a school trip and it seems to be focused on archaeology, so it seems to have some academic merit. I went to a small school where trips like this were the norm (class of 17 students). (Not that we every did this one, i would have loved it back then!) So I dont see the trip itself as that big of a deal. I do have concerns about the school thinking Mexico was appropriate, not because of the Girls Gone Wild vibe but more so because of the general unsafety of traveling in Mexico right now. There are much safer places of academic importance that could have been visited.

Now about the funding of the security...I understand the need for the whole class to have security beyond what a normal high school class would need. In a school that small most become close. A kidnapping of any student could be a big issue, not just Obama's daughter. You want your security to be fresh when they are on duty so I can even understand the amount of people they have verses the amount of people under protection. It is a lot but does not seem grossly outside the relm of what could be reasonably considered necessary. Beyond the amount of security, I dont think the president should be responsible for paying for his family's security detail. If you make that a condition of holding the office of president, then you are getting into iffy territory where a person has to be so rich in order to even hold office. So I wouldnt expect that the president pay for the security detail of his family, either while at home or on vacation.


Now I will say that perhaps the amount of vacations that the Presidents family can take without the president should be limited to a more reasonable amount by policy. it seems like every couple of months we are reading about this Obama's trip or that Obama's trip. I know that growing up the average family doesnt take 6 vacations a year...either apart or together. I see two trips a year where the president is not accompanying his family as an appropriate amount. Not 2 per family member but 2 altogether. Maybe one of the girls takes a class trip and then maybe Michelle and the girls take a trip over the summer. that seems to be enough for us to pay for IMO.


And since there isnt an official policy, it is just plain tacky that Obama isnt limiting his family on his own. We are in a recession right now. Government spending is out of control. Many Americans dont know if they are still going to have a job or a roof over their heads two months from now...we dont need to be reading about another vacation for the president's family that we are paying for. It's just selfish and bad for morale. I understand that he wants his family to have a 'normal childhood' but so do the many people that are unemployed. You think they want their kids to grow up in shelters, that they have envisioned that as a 'normal childhood' for their kids?

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  • I did hear that the Obama's paid for their own trip to Hawaii to visit relatives so they have probably paid for other trips as well..Claudia
  • Did he pay for the security? I imagine that would be lots of money. Paying for the trip itself is one thing but the total costs incl. security? (eom) Dawn

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    Posted by: BJ
    Date posted: Thu Mar 22 1:27:54 2012
    Message:
    At our school in Montana our school has 5th-8th graders go to france. another school takes their 6th gradeto China. I guess it's not that uncommon anymore.

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  • I went to FL in 9th grade to see the space shuttle not go off...We didn't have any Secret Service agents with us, though...eom (ML)eom (ML)
  • Yea our kids don't either, however no one would probably try and kid nap one of our kids either. So I do understand the need for that. However I do firmly believe that since it was a personal choice to allow her to go on this trip, it should be The president and first lady who foot the bill. EOM BJ
  • It was a school mission project not a vacation..Claudia

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    Posted by: Carol
    Date posted: Wed Mar 21 16:04:10 2012
    Message:
    http://www.celebritybabyscoop.com/2012/03/20/malia-obama-has-mucho-fun-in-mexico


    Pictures of the girls on break and an article.

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  • Yeah, there it is...eom (ML)

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    Posted by: misspm
    Date posted: Wed Mar 21 1:33:25 2012
    Message:

    Since when do 13 year olds participate in Spring Break like college students do?  I've never ever heard of that.

    Spring Break can be a wild time.  I wouldn't even want to introduce a 13 year old to the concept.  Thirteen year olds are usually just glad to be out of school and hanging out at the mall (although I don't know how the President's daughter can hang out at the mall). 

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  • It seems to me that that's an idea I wouldn't want planted, but that's just me...eom (ML)

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    Posted by: CJ
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 23:06:54 2012
    Message:

    WOW !!!  Just WOW !!!

    And yeah, it is no longer on Huffington.  I found this link which has screen caps of some of the webpages which have now disappeared. 

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-is-the-story-about-malia-obama-vacationing-in-mexico-disappearing-from-the-web/

    Wonder how long this one will be up?  Could it not be true? Something tells me it is true...and if so, WOW !!!

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  • Link inside to pics. Can't read the story as it is in Spanish.
  • Gotta love the internet. I found a Spanish to English translator and translated the story inside. No guarantees is it accurate, but the numbers 12 & 13 & 25 seem legit :)
  • I just read it was a school trip. If President Obama paid his own childs way and for the secret service people then I am less upset about this. I still think Mexico was a poor choice when there are so many places in the United States they could have gone. IF President Obama paid for all that out of his own money then he should tell us (the taxpayers) that. If not, it's just one more thing to hold against him, IMO. eom fuzzwuzz
  • . . . . . I also read that it was a school trip, but who knows at this point? But, even if it was a school trip, why Mexico of ALL places? What school would do that? And, yes he does need to come clean about the funding, but I don't expect that to happen. I understand not wanting any pics of the girls without them, but shutting down the news part of it on ALL those websites disturbs me. eom CJ
  • Yeah, there's something ''Big Brother'' about wiping all those internet news sites clean. It makes me slighly paranoid for some reason. eom fuzzwuzz
  • Makes you wonder how much goes on, actually...eom (ML)

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    Posted by: Geri
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 20:49:13 2012
    Message:
    I'm guessing we won't see this on the network news any time within the week of her vacation. Crazy -- 13 year olds on a spring break? I thought the Obamas wanted to treat the girls as normal kids. What normal 13 year old goes on Spring break without her parents?

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  • Apparently, it's a class trip. That's great...except for the Secret Service involved...eom (ML)

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    Posted by: Cindi94
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 20:26:39 2012
    Message:
    I am a big Obama supporter, but this is ridiculous. Since when do 13-year-olds go on spring break? And why do tax dollars need to pay for the security of her and her friends? Not to mention the Mexican police used as security - they have a lot of other things to worry about besides this child on vacation.

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  • Agreed. Totally. eom (ML)

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    Posted by: Paula
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 18:56:44 2012
    Message:
    On the one hand, her parents may have wanted her to be included in whatever group activity her friends were into, but on the other, it'd be hard to justify all those security people = 25?? That's two for each kid in the group. No way they're going to have the usual Spring Break with that crowd, so why didn't they design their own Spring Break? And why isn't Mommy there if they're so concerned?

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  • I've thought about this for a few days. I understand wanting your kids to be included in things. But it's not like the kid doesn't travel because of his office...not by a long shot...eom (ML)

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    Posted by: sandy
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 17:44:36 2012
    Message:
    When did 13 year old kids need to go to Mexico on Spring break or whatever it is? Because their life is so stressful and they need a break? And unless private people are paying for the security.......I am really angry!

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  • That makes two of us...eom (ML)

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    Posted by: Nicky
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 16:57:48 2012
    Message:

    OMG, I'm so angry at this story that I could throw my computer.     Why didn't she just go to Hawaii?   Mexico?   What is wrong with these parents?????

    This guy has to get the hell out of office.    I can't stand him.

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  • I'll leave that one alone...emo (ML)

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    Posted by: RK
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 16:48:35 2012
    Message:
    If this was a normal activity all children participate in, I would be willing to pay for the necessary security to protect them while doing it. But it's not. And I'm not. But I don't have a choice. Wonderful.

    And before someone points out how small a portion of the budget this is, as often seems to happen in these topics ... I'm a couponer. I don't think any savings is too small. :-)

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  • One would think it would be paid for by the parents...eom (ML)

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    Posted by: fuzzwuzz
    Date posted: Mon Mar 19 15:39:40 2012
    Message:
    Why?  Thirteen year olds don't do spring break.  Would she have been allowed to do this if her daddy wasn't President and therefore entitled to security guards???  I think not.  Your tax dollars at work, folks. Debt??  What debt?!!

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  • Exactly...eom (ML)

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