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Topic: Generations of 'One Life To Live' Fans Are Still Fighting To Find It's New Home


Topic Posted by: Tony Marino
Date Posted: Wed Jan 18 14:39:13 2012
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Here is some Encouragement:

January 16, 2012

ABC soap fans are a loyal bunch. ABC should have known this since many of these fans have watched this show from day one. Those fans have shared their love for this soap and this genre with their daughters, sons as well as their grandchildren, and even great-grand-children. This means that there are second, third and even fourth generation of viewers that are devoted to this show. Did ABC really think these fans would go away just because they cancelled this show? Well, if they did, maybe they now realized that they were wrong.

This is day one of the life without “One Life To Live” airing on ABC. What did many fans do as they got up this morning? They did the same thing as they on April 15, 2011, the day after the news broke that this show was cancelled. They got up and began their day. Then when they had the time, they went to their computers. They sign on to the various Facebook groups and looked to see what the goals were for the soapers for the day.

Yes, each day the various groups have goals in which they hoped their members could accomplish. These goals may vary. But each goal will hopefully have one common end result, to find a new home for “One Life to Live” and “All My Children.” See, the soapers realize that these daytime dramas have the potential money wise, fan wise and ratings wise to do well on another broadcast station. They do not intend on resting until these two goals are met.

What are some of the goals for the day: The soapers want the fans to contact Disney executives. They want ABC to release their claim to these shows and give them to Agnes Nixon. Once she has these shows back in her hands, she can begin working with another broadcast station to hopefully begin airing them.

First, the soapers are contacting The President of Daytime himself, Paul Lee. He is the one who is continually being reported in many articles as stating that no decision has been made about whether ABC is going to cancel “General Hospital.” Soapers are voicing their opinions on this. They are reminding him that this is the only daytime show in which he can count on viewers. They are also reminding him that viewers are what helps his actual ad sales.

Next, they are contacting Victoria Dummer, the possibly unlucky woman who took Brian Fronz job and executive Bob Iger, who began at ABC at “Ryan’s Hope,” and may need reminded of this.

Contact info for all the executives can be found on Facebook groups as Boycott ABC Across America. Daily tasks can be found on many Facebook Groups, like I Would Pay A Network/Cable/Satellite/ Provider To Save My Soaps, as well as detail information on how to do them.

If you are a fan of “One Life To Live” and “All My Children”, why don’t you join these loyal fans? Join some of these Facebook groups and join in on their daily tasks. Show ABC that the fans are united in one thing: saving the daytime dramas.

Note: Paul Lee’s Info:

Mr. Paul Lee

ABC Entertainment Group

500 S. Buena Vista Street

Burbank, CA 91521-4588

Leave a brief message (30 seconds) on the ABC viewer feedback line. Dial 1-818-460-7477 and press 1, 2, 2, then 352.

You can also call ABC’s Burbank office to leave Mr. Lee a message:

1-818-560-1000 (Burbank, CA)

Paul Lee’s Email: paul.lee@abc.com

Sources:

preventtheblackout.tumblr.com

Information for Victoria Dummer and Bob Iger can be found on the above Facebook Groups.

http://www.examiner.com/abc-in-national/ge...nd-its-new-home





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Posted by: Chaz
Date posted: Fri Jan 20 15:37:00 2012
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If soap fans are so "loyal," why did the OLTL ratings sink into the toilet? Just askin'. It's because so many people abandoned the show that it got canned. The sets are down; the actors are gone; it's over.

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Posted by: Cary
Date posted: Thu Jan 19 0:52:21 2012
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Emails sent and calls made.  Thanks for posting this info!

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Posted by: Rosebud1
Date posted: Wed Jan 18 14:59:58 2012
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Lee is in the same position as Frons.  He has bosses to apease & in their minds, soaps have no value.  Just as w/Frons, he doesn't have the freedom to ignore Corp's wishes & simply listen to the fans.

ICAM, the multi-generational aspect to the fanbase should be embraced & celebrated, not deminished & de-valued.  However, TPTB (Corp) & their marketing mineons could care less about the multi-generational fan base & are ONLY interested in the younger demos--those under 26 yrs old.  That has been true, across the board, for more than a decade & it shows.

Soap fans, no matter what the network, are a very loyal bunch & we always have been.  We've also been very vocal, since the days of radio about their opinions.  While there are still some folks who 'think' that the fans are responsible for the state of soaps now, because we've expressed our opinions & fought for soaps to be what they can & should be, there are lots of us who know that expressing our p.o.v. has always been a part of soap fandom.  It isn't the fans' fault that TIIC haven't been listening or have misinterpreted what has been said or acted upon.  Fans tuning out never meant that soaps had no future or no audience, it meant that TIIC weren't delivering the quality stories & characters that fans wanted to see.  Rather than poo-pooing the fans who have been loyal for the duration, they should have been embracing us & getting back on track to making the shows what the audience wanted, rather than trying to be 'cutting edge' & putting weak plot device driven stories over quality, character driven material.

Realistically, much as I would love to see all cancelled soaps of the last 13 yrs or so find homes elsewhere, ABC has missed the boat, apparently on purpose.  They've burned that loyal fan base more than once & stand to continue that practice w/still more lowering of the bar, unnecessarily.  Sadly, the reality is that millions of those fans have moved on, reluctantly.  The chances that they would emotionally re-invest in shows brought to them by the same entities that burned them is slim.

I've never said that fans shouldn't fight for their shows.  However, the time to have REALLY fought for them was when others were in danger & so many said 'Oh, that will NEVER happen to MY show(s)!' 

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  • No offense, Rosebud, but you've obviously lost your hope and your passion. Please don't encourage others to give up like you have. If you cannot say something nice, please don't disparage others who still want to fight.
  • But fighting is a lost cause. The shows have been cancelled. (inside)
  • I don't think that I've ever seen Rosebud post anything positive. Always gloom and doom with that one. I intend to keep on contacting and not giving up the fight.
  • Fighting for what you want, what is right, or what you believe in, is NEVER a 'lost cause'!!!
  • Nobody beats a dead horse like Rosebud. Every soap cancellation brings the same lecture about how fans should have cared more 10 years ago. --Crane eom
  • Crane, agreed. Should I pull out for Rosebud my thank you letter from 30 years ago from Gail Kobe, thanking me for all of the letters I was sending to NBC to save Texas? Of course, they cancelled it anyway, but that's besides the point. Alot of us having been doing this for just as long, if not longer, than Rosebud and we don't need the lectures from her.
  • Maybe Rosebud is right, anyone ever think of that?? Maybe people should have cared 10 years ago and we wouldn't be in this situation today. Like it our not we are in the minority of soap viewers.
  • luvgl: I've never lost my passion for soaps & doubt I ever will. I have no illusions about the future of shows like AW, ATWT, GL, Loving, Port Charles, The City, OLTL or GH. I would still be fighting for them, if there was a realistic chance that the shows would return & be done well. I've never been one who wanted a soap at any cost, even if that meant being grateful for any measly crumbs being thrown. I wanted soaps that were intelligent, well written & respectful of the audience. Not something that talked down to us.

    Jennifer: I've never been negative about soaps. I've always seen the positive--that they could/should be better than what they have been for the last several yrs. Yes, there were a few exceptions, but in general, what TPTB (Corp) saw as 'great soap opera' was patheticly inadequate & insulting to the audience--which was a big reason why so many millions of fans tuned soaps out. I've always thought that soaps had lots of potential left in them. I wasn't the one who said that soaps had no future & that the audience was 'uneducated', 'had brains of oatmeal' and 'the collective attention span of a gnat'. That was Corp. & what THEY put out was what made their narrow minded p.o.v. a reality. Not me.

    Crane: I'm hardly beating a dead horse here. I'm a realist. I know that P&G isn't going to bring back their shows--they have no interest. The same w/ABC. I'm not saying, give up, I'm saying that a lot of fans got into the fight to save soaps late--after Corp. had made up their minds & had lost a lot of ground w/fans.

    Chase: I'm not talking about something irrelivant when I talk about Mr. Dixson. I'm also not talking just about him. I've spoken about several sources who echoed his comments. Nice that Ms Kobe wrote to you, but something 30 yrs ago IS irrelivant to this. Back then, soaps were replaced w/soaps--not w/rip off game shows, syndicated judge shows or infomercials. I've never been one of those rabid fans of Dark Shadows, but there have been fans of THAT soap who have wanted it to return 40 (?) yrs after it was cancelled. I'm not going to appologize for believing that soaps could/should have been better than they have been the last several yrs. I don't see what is unreasonable about thinking that soaps had a LOT more stories to tell & tell well. eom

  • Miss.Bear: Thanks! eom
  • Yet 40 years after it was cancelled Dark Shadows Still has a following and they did bring it back briefly in the early 90's and now there is a Dark Shadows movie coming out in May of this year. Point being don't give up you never know what might spark interest in a cancelled show, especially if it has a large enough fanbase. So we move on, we are sad, but we can still hope.
  • Rosebud is full of contradictions here, just for the sake of arguing. That's her M.O. She's to be pitied. Many times, she has said just the opposite of what she has said here, just for the sake of arguing. She's pathetic.
  • Tony, does that mean that if they ever make a OLTL movie, Johnny Depp would play Todd Manning? Be still my heart! Wanda Wolek
  • Wanda, you can only wish that he would play Todd Manning, would make for interesting storytelling don't you think?
  • Just Jack: I'm not contradicting myself at all! I've consistantly said the TPTB (Corp) have taken the wrong road--the low road. I've always said that Corp. consistantly has made bad choices over the last 20+ yrs. I stand by that. Yes, there were a couple of exceptions, but 99.99% of the time they've made poor to awful choices, then blamed the fans for their own missteps. They've also consistantly missed the boat when it came to how to interpret the fans' actions over the last 20+ yrs. Instead of seeing the increase in fans leaving as meaning that 'soaps have run their course' and 'soaps have no more stories to tell', they should have seriously looked at what the audeince was saying about reluctantly leaving shows that they still believed in & knew could be doing better. None of the Dark Shadows reboots have come close to having what the original did. They've barely resembled the original that the fans loved. My point wasn't that if you wait 40+ yrs your show might just come back. eom
  • The reason the Dark Shadows re-boot didn't do well is because they chose to put it on late on a friday night! Back in the 90's any show put on late friday nights was an immediate death sentence. They then finished the series out by putting it on Saturday night which of course is on its way to be dead and buried. Because of fans Dark Shadows is still very much alive, they have a weekend convention every year and have since the end of the show in 1972. Now a major motion picture is coming in May. If it still didn' t have such a large fan base it would have died a long time ago. I am still hopeful some miracle will happen and our show will come back. Keep those letters rolling in people!

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