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Topic: People who can't seem to work


Topic Posted by: katiesbeach
Date Posted: Mon Jan 9 6:56:06 2012
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I have to rant.  It's Monday morning, cold outside, and I really don't want to go to work, but I have to.

My other siblings for some reason have never picked up on the 'habit' of going to work.  I have a brother and a sister who have skated through life on handouts and pity.  It makes me sick, since it is my parents who basically support them.  They have five children between them that don't have any idea what financial hardship is b/c they've been bailed out so many times by my parents.  I don't just mean bailed out.  I mean these gets get annual trips to Disney World, gold trips, and just about every other thing you can think of (oh, and parents tickets are included too.)  I've never been able to go, b/c I am working.

Brother and sister seem to think that they, and their children, are entitled.  It just makes me sick.  Now, it's time for me to get my butt to work.  Vent ended (for now.)





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Posted by: rosie
Date posted: Tue Jan 10 8:52:29 2012
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It's their nature and it isn't going to change.Did your ever hear the story of the frog and the scorpion ? The forest is on fire , the scorpion reaches the water where there is a frog ,he asks the frog to take him to the other side . The frog says no you'll sting me. The scorpion says no , if I do we'll both die. So the frog agrees and the scorpion gets on his back , as they cross the water ,the scorpion stings the frog, before he dies he asks , why did you sting me, answer is , it is my nature. Very simple , but very true and unchangeable, it's their nature to be what they are , and they will remain that way. I have this in my family too, how did we get raised by the same parents, yet turn out so differently ?????????

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Posted by: Cache
Date posted: Tue Jan 10 6:55:26 2012
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I have no respect for those that feel they are entitled to anything/everything, those that are habitually late for everything or feel their opinion is the only correct one. Folks like that have no respect for themselves or others.  I think some of the handout programs are nothing but enablers for people that think the world owes them.  In the past people that wouldn't work went without. Now, people that won't work even coach others in ways to ''beat the ''system'' ''. Unfortunately ''the system'' is you and I who hold down taxpaying jobs.  Sad isn't it.

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  • Oh, that is another pet peeve with these same family members. Since they don't follow any kind of structured schedule, they think it is okay to be late for anything. They've been late for lunches with me where I only have an hour....and then they laugh and blame it on kids, or whatever. Excuse me, if you know you are always late, and kids are a problem, then get started an hour BEFORE hand. it's so rude.

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    Posted by: Jenny
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 21:29:46 2012
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    Your parents are spending your inheritance before they pass.  It's their right, but it doesn't seem fair.  You all lose in that respect, they miss out on one of the joys of life:  being independent and you miss out on what they might have left you.  I know you don't care as much about what you're out, but that they are taking advantage of your folks.  That's a huge point of disrespect for me.  It's one thing to be down on one's luck or need to borrow, but to soak everything they need to live on from your folks, that's almost criminal.  If they were doing it to an unrelated neighbor, it would be criminal.  Technically, it is stealing, if they can work, but won't and could manage, but don't.  They would actually do your siblings a favor if they would STOP supporting them now and put the money in a trust for later and force them to work now.  If they don't start working soon, when they do have to work, what kind of skills will they have?  What kind of jobs could they hold?  Could they actually have a career or will it be McDonald's?

    I have always supported myself.  Sure, my folks have always been generous with me, but they were never rich.  Now, both of them are gone and it's just me.  It's a scary thought, but I have to deal with it.  They should deal with it while they're younger and your parents are still alive.

    Good luck!

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  • I couldn't agree with you any more. However, both of my parents refuse to let the grandkids suffer, and their parents definately play off of that. It's sickening.

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    Posted by: Mitch
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 19:28:07 2012
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    Well, it's your parents money to do with as they see fit.

    If I was you, I'd start prepping the siblings now, once your parents money is gone and/or they are, you're not there to keep the gravy train in motion.  That train has left the station.

    It's Aesop's the Ants and the Grasshopper fable, which goes back to the 7th Century B.C..  For some reason, there's been a few of these stories on MD lately.

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  • P.S. See inside.....
  • I loved that! She sure was a cutie. I liked how she stomped her foot....so precious. eom/Jenny
  • well, they won't get anything from me. Even if I win the big lottery, I would ask them to hand me their bills and I would pay off their debts and set up a college tuition fund for the children, but they wouldn't get any 'yee-ha' money.
  • Why would you pay off their bills? They're only going to rack up more. Paula

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    Posted by: Kathy from Maryland
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 16:04:57 2012
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    A lot of the houses on my road are Section 8 housing and also on both sides of us (we own our home). It wasn't always this way. People have moved over the years and sold their properties to people who have bought up these properties at public sales in front of the courthouse. None of these people work and some are related to each other. They party all the time and always have money for cigarettes and beer. I work very hard (physically) at my job and I just turned 60 towards the end of last year. I sometimes resent, having to leave my house at 4am to go to work, while these people, many times, are just going to bed. They know how to work the system. These aren't disabled people, they are able-bodied people, who don't know what an honest days work is. I'm sure that I'm not exclusive in feeling this way but it sure gets old. I don't want to live like these people live, and I don't mean to "whine" about it. I guess it all goes back to the thing where we are paying taxes to keep these people. I imagine it will always be this way.

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    Posted by: Anonymous
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 14:57:44 2012
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    Recently I was in line at the store and a young female in front of me had quite a few items - let me state without sounding racist that she was arabic - her bill came to over $100.00 and she pulled out her food stamp card. After swiping the card she still owed $4.00. She pulled out a $100 bill to pay.

    I'm standing behind her with three items because that's all I could afford that day and just about fell on the floor! I worked my entire life (I'm now 65!) and I can't get food stamps because ''I make $600 too much''. I guess I don't know how to work the system but it seems alot of people do!!

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  • For one thing, what does her being Arabic have to do with anything? That's completely irrelevant. And second, so what if she paid with a $100 bill? For all you know, that may be all the money she has to live on for the next 2 weeks. You have NO idea what her actual circumstances are, so why be so judgmental? ~i&b
  • I agree with Anonymous, I have a close friend who Hubby works, she gets over $600 for older mentally impaired son, second son who has Crons Desease she gets another $ 600 A Daughter who is a senion in high School and already getting Wick and she is crying because she can't get Food Stamps. Yukon
  • Also ,ent to add, she has never worked A day in her life. spends the over $ 1200 she gets for them on junk that they don't take care of. they each have a computer and she loves to buy jubj jewelry. yukon
  • A lot of these people collecting food stamps are the biggest a-holes on God's green earth. They think they're entitled and have no idea what it is like to earn a dollar. The democrats support these idiots. The tax payers are paying for these morons.
  • Because I&B every Arab I have EVER seen in a store or wherever pull out that food stamp card - whether it be a drug store or whatever. I've heard the reason the Arab women get food stamps is because they don't use their husband's last names when applying so they only go by what she ''earns'' which is probably NILCH! Check it out next time you see this happening and you'll see exactly what I mean. The men, on the other hand, own grocery stores, gas stations, whatevah!
  • I tend to agree with Anonymous above. I work in the medical field at a very large hospital and every middle eastern person who comes in for tests or lab or CT scans come in with a free medical card issued month to month. It's sad when our own people have to do without medical care because they can't afford it but ''outsiders'' can get health coverage. I think it's New Zealand who won't let anyone in their country unless they can prove they have assets available. (I believe it was $25,000). I can't imagine, being a U.S. citizen myself, going over to another country and applying for their help in food, medical, etc. and act like I deserve it!

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    Posted by: hollykins
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 13:06:51 2012
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    One of the things I hate about the democrat party is they support this lifestyle. In this case it's the parents supporting this and not the government stealing from people. There are too many people who sit on their lazy a##es and collect welfare checks and do nothing to try to improve themselves. I'm not talking about disabled people I'm talking about lazy people who think they're entitled and cheat the government.

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  • And in your world there are no Republicans, TPers, Libertarians, or Independents on welfare? You sound like Ahmadinejad when he proclaimed there are no gay people in Iran (though less entertaining). ~i&b
  • In your world there are no people stealing from the government when they could be working jobs like the rest of. I'm glad you don't mind working so you can support these lazy idiots.
  • Sadly (or not?) the majority of people I know who sponge off the tax payers are die-hard Republicans. Maybe they'll vote the republicans in and hten when they find themselves no longer able to live off of the taxpayers ( the only positive thing I can see republicans actually doing) they'll regret it. Then it'll be too late and I can LMAO at these people - that is, if I'm not completely disgusted at the loss of many personal/social freedoms that republicans endorse............DebS
  • The people I know stealing from the government or don't feel like working or want something for nothing are all die hard democrats.
  • The people I know that are sponging off the government don't even bother to vote! Most of them are so ill-informed or apathetic that voting never even crosses their radar. Maybe that's a good thing, I don't know. I do remember when a particular party would have picnics with fried chicken and watermelon and then give people rides to the polling place. And I'm sure it's been done by ALL parties, not just whichever popped into your head just now. eom/Jenny
  • Hollykins, obviously there are people who cheat the system (yes, even Republicans). I never said otherwise. But there are also people who are truly in need, especially these days. The majority of welfare recipients manage to get back on their feet again and get off welfare. I know you'd prefer to pretend they're all ''idiotic Democrats cheating the system'' but that doesn't square with reality. And my point to the anon was that you can't always tell which person is which when you see them once for a few minutes. It's common sense. ~i&b
  • The democrats are the ones supporting this lifestyle which is why these lazy people vote democrat. I know a lazy welfare recipient who lived in a nursing home because his parents didn't want him and tormented the elderly people there for fun. He was a die hard democrat along with his welfare recipient friends who never worked a day in their lives. Maybe you don't mind spending your money on this but I do.
  • Hollykins, you'd argue the sky is green and the grass is blue and claim it's the Democrat's fault. Not a lot of credibility in your claims but that's okay. ~i&b
  • The democrats are the one raising taxes so we can support these leaches. The dems like to take from people who work and give it to people who won't work.They love democrats because they'll give them something for nothing. They hate republicans because they want to take it away from them and make them work. Why do you think they're democrat supporters? You know it's true.
  • I haven't seen you put one thing down disproving my claim. Could it be true???
  • Oh, and I would bet you any money that person anon was talking about is a bleeding heart democrat.
  • Hollykins, you are only digging yourself into a deeper hole every time you post. Fact: Under Obama, 80% of taxpayers have paid their lowest rates in 60 years -- lower than even under St. Ronald Reagan (who, incidentally, RAISED taxes). Of those whose tax bill was raised, the increase was as little as $15/year. Do yourself a favor -- do some actual research and educate yourself instead of settling for looking ignorant. You don't seem to realize that you only embarrass yourself. ~i&b
  • Hollykins, your beloved Reupblicans just love you right back, You've decided, based on absolutely no actual facts whatsoever, that Democrats are all free-loaders living off the hardwork of Republicans. Then you vote for the Repugs and basically screw yourself. Most Americans and especially most poor Amercains don't vote at all. Thankfully, fewer and fewer people everyday are buying in to your level of stupidity. (Mrs. B. H.)
  • Oh bull, they vote alright and they vote democrat. I know enough of them to know they all vote democrat. Surprise, I'm not a republican. Is it just a big coinsciedence all the free loaders of this country vote democrat?? Anybody who wants something for nothing votes democrat.
  • Wow, that's amazing, Hollykins -- you know every single ''freeloader'' in America AND their voting history! (And you wonder why you have no credibility...) ~i&b
  • I didn't say I knew every single person. I said every freeloader I know happens to be a democrat. They think the government will give them something for nothing. The democrats are the big supporters of government and wastefully spend tax payer money. I know you are democrat. You are one sided and cannot see the dems are not perfect.
  • First off, I never said the Democrats are perfect. Far from it. I've posted my gripes from time to time, though apparently you didn't read them. Second, yes, you did infer that you know all freeloaders and how they vote. Your exact words: ''I know enough of them to know they all vote democrat .... Is it just a big coinsciedence all the free loaders of this country vote democrat?? Anybody who wants something for nothing votes democrat.'' You should be more careful in your choice of words before throwing around such absurd claims. ~i&b
  • Hollykins, if all the freeloaders are Democrats and it pisses you off then I'm all for it! (Mrs. B. H.)
  • Oh that was real intelligent.

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    Posted by: Snappy
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 11:10:35 2012
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    Katiesbeach, boy do I hear you.  My husband has 2 sisters who have grown adult children who won't work and their parents still let them live at home, until they move in with some boyfriend and when that doesn't pan out, they move back in with parents, and the parents take them.  They do not have medical issues that would prevent them from working.  They have reasons like they can't work at Starbucks because they would have to get up early.  In my family I was taught early on that you have to work to earn not only monitary reward, but self esteem and pride in providing for yourself, and not being dependent on others.  When I was growing up all I wanted was to graduate, get a job and move out into an apt, the thought of living, as an adult, with my parents (who were wonderful & I loved very much) was horrifying.   

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  • why do parents feel like they have to be such enablers. My son tried to free-load off of us after he got out of the military, and we gave him six months to get it together. he didn't. he spent the days sleeping and nights partying.....after six months, we put him out. That was years ago, and we still have a nice close relationship.

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    Posted by: Ashley
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 11:07:11 2012
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    Katie, I was thinking the exact same thing as I got up to get ready for work at 5:00 this morning! Thankfully it's not a family member, but an in-law's family member who gets to me, is plain lazy and has never worked and is in her mid-30s, still living with her parents and 100% supported by them. But then I realize - I have so many things she doesn't, including the ability to support myself and make choices that she can't ... I wouldn't trade places with her for anything.

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    Posted by: ingyandbert
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 10:04:38 2012
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    I don't blame you for feeling that way, Katie.  It's a frustrating to see people taking advantage like that.  But in the end I don't believe the freeloaders are as happy and fullfilled deep down as someone who makes their own way in life.

    There's a similar situation in my family with my oldest sister's daughter.  She's 47 years old and has the maturity of a 15 year old. She's put her parents and children through some horrendous times.  She's twice divorced with 2 sons; both husbands were deadbeats who never earned a decent living nor paid child support.  My sister and BIL have helped support my niece all of her adult life.  After losing a good job about 3 years ago due to downsizing, my niece has not worked except for part-time bartending (which is not enough for her to live on) and hasn't been serious about looking for work.  My sister & BIL practically raised my niece's oldest son (who, thankfully, turned out to be a wonderful person) and are helping raise the younger son (fingers still crossed on that one; his future is more iffy).  But they are senior citizens now and living off retirement income.  They don't have the stamina nor the money to deal with a middle-aged daughter with Peter Pan syndrome and her troubled teenager. 

    The stress that my niece's poor judgment has caused her parents has resulted in some very serious health problems for them.  My niece adores her parents but she's oblivious to the fact that she is the cause of their stress. She will be lost without them someday.  But it's as though confronting her own culpability and her parents' mortality is too much for her to handle emotionally, so she just blocks it out and goes on as always.  My sister & BIL realize they helped create this mess by enabling my niece all her life but they're afraid of what will become of her and the younger boy if they withdrew their support now. The situation could get dangerous for my younger nephew.  It's a bad situation all around and very hard to watch.  The rest of us try to help for my nephew's sake, but it's a fine line between helping him in the short run and enabling his mother (which will only hurt him in the long run).  What to do, what to do...


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    Posted by: Peridot
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 9:31:16 2012
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    KB, unfortunately, it sounds like your parents have fostered a bad habit in your brother and sister.  One day the gravy train will stop and then where will they be?  Even sadder is the example they're setting for their own children.  I'm not sure what you personally can do about this situation, assuming you've spoken up in the past; just be thankful you're not in their shoes. 

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    Posted by: DebS
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 9:24:26 2012
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    You are preaching to the choir, as that is a huge pet peeve of mine - people who skate by on handouts, whether they are government, family, etc,  while the rest of us (especially the middle class) work our arses off. It's just not fair.

    When will those of us who actually contribute to society actually get something handed to US for a change?!

     

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  • Amen to that!

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    Posted by: Sierra
    Date posted: Mon Jan 9 9:01:50 2012
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    Why don't they work?  Are they disabled or something or just that lazy?  What about their spouses (if there are any in the picture).

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  • not really lazy, just don't want to work. somehow it's beneath them to keep corporate hours. and I think I summed it up best when i said 'entitled' they don't feel they should have to as long as someone else is willing to suppor them.

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